(17.09.2015 19:24)Buzzie schrieb: [ -> ] (17.09.2015 18:49)GrumpyBear schrieb: [ -> ]Da bin ich ja mal gespannt.
shorudan;5124551 schrieb:Hey guys, a quick update on this. I'm going through a couple of internal investigations and comparing EU tax, customs and shipping scenarios with actual end customers to determine reasonable final EU prices. It's more complicated than I thought so I'm grateful for the EU customers for helping me on this. I don't want to name them as I'd like to keep them anonymous. Will post updates again as soon as I get something concrete.
Wäre ja super, wenn sich da noch was tut! 
Hey everyone, sorry for the long delay in updating this. I've been going through and fro with the EU distributor and also a very very helpful EU customer (I'll keep him anonymous due to his preference) to run through every single line of costings. What I can confidently say is that the EU distributor is not marking up/over profiting more than other Countries' Distributors - he has priced fairly so this part I would like to reassure the EU customers. It is also worthwhile to note that the EU distributor, unlike other distributors, is solely dedicated to XM products which means creation, maintaining of website, events, travels are all absorbed by the German Master Distributor. It has been noted that they also take care of certain defects locally which is a very good support for locals. In this regard, the EU distributor is actually charging a reasonable margin.
Due to contractual and confidential numbers I cannot reveal, I've narrowed down the reasons of the EU higher prices to the following;
Licensing cost is higher in EU than in SEA.
Shipping cost is higher due to double shipment. i.e, first to port, then to main distributor in Germany, then again to resellers in other countries.
VAT or EU taxes are based on the final selling retail price, which creates a significantly higher cost on higher priced items such as XM. For instance, a XM product retailing for 1,000 Euros means about 200 Euros are actually tax (the product is more like 800 Euros)
There is actually double mark ups, first from the Master Distributor, then the other EU countries' resellers but note that even with the combined mark ups, the amount is reasonable and not much higher than the other XM distributors with a single markup. This is what I meant by a fair markup and the higher costs not really due to EU Distributor markup.
So the only practical way to reduce EU pricing is to remove the extra 2nd tier resellers but even after working out the numbers, the savings we are looking at is about 70 euros per piece on a 1,000 euros product. And in exchange, we are talking about giving up the benefits of a wider network of local resellers who are closer and able to provide more support to customers. i.e. if a customer has issues with a piece, they can go to the local reseller rather than send it to the German Distributor.
I've been mulling over this and doing all price scenarios covering port shipping costs, license costs, various VAT costs by diffferent EU countries via 3rd party consultant (not the EU Disti) but unfortunately, it seems XM products will be pricier in EU with little options of making it cheaper. At this point I must also point out that even if you buy from say Singapore and ship it to EU, and if you add on the legally required additional costs such as increased license fee (all XM products in EU need to subject to that increase license cost or legally they are actually not allowed in that region) plus the VAT (without under declaring the value), you will find that the resulting cost is the same as what the EU distributor is retailing for (plus EU disti throws in local support & Customer Service). Remember if you are buying from another country, you aren't actually paying the licenses for that product to be in that country. The EU Distributor rightfully has to abide by the EU license fees and Taxes so please bear this in mind when comparing retail price between EU and other countries.
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Shorudan
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